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SVG not supported 2:18pm Tue 12th Nov, ANONYMOUS

csmarks currently shows the marks for mid-sem 1. Mid-sem 2 and project marks are not visible, and the graphs are not visible for anything.


SVG not supported 1:58pm Tue 12th Nov, ANONYMOUS

No, csmarks is broken.


SVG not supported 1:41pm Tue 12th Nov, Arran S.

Challenge projects are still being marked, in some cases - but once the marks go into csmarks, any bonus marks for challenge questions will be included. I'm unsure if csmarks is still displaying distribution graphs can you see them for e.g. the qu...


SVG not supported 1:04pm Tue 12th Nov, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, Thank you for releasing the marks. However, I couldn't find the mark for bonus question as it was not submitted in moodle. Could you please let us know how can we get the mark for that? Also, to know how we performed among all students, could...


SVG not supported 11:24am Tue 12th Nov, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, Could you let me know what the average mark was? Thanks so much Best,


SVG not supported 8:18am Tue 12th Nov, Arran S.

Hi all, Marks and feedback for on-time project submissions should be visible in Moodle. If you have queries about the project, feel free to email me. Cheers Arran


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SVG not supported 11:45pm Mon 14th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, I'm still a little bit confused, does that mean we should use 2 test cases from Q7, and write them by JUnit in Q8? Thank you


SVG not supported 8:51pm Mon 14th Oct, Callum B.

Hi Arran, With the project due in three days, I was just wondering when the testing area for Q8 the junit tests will be available? Callum


SVG not supported 5:55pm Mon 14th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, Question with the submission, i notice there is a time limit of 40 mins, dose that mean I only have one shot or one opportunity to submit all my answer for the project within 40 minute? Thanks.


SVG not supported 5:05pm Mon 14th Oct, Arran S.

Hi all, The project submission area is available on Moodle it's labelled "Project final submission". I hope to also have a Java code test in the testing sandbox, shortly. Cheers Aran


SVG not supported 2:58pm Mon 14th Oct, Karla I.

Hi, were there any updates on the testing area for Q8? Thanks


SVG not supported 12:44pm Mon 14th Oct, Arran S.

Yes, that's correct. cheers Arran ANONYMOUS wrote


SVG not supported 12:44pm Mon 14th Oct, Arran S.

Gihad might be using the term "partition" loosely, in the sense of "a partitioning". So a partitioning of some domain X might give us two (or more) partitions.


SVG not supported 12:43pm Mon 14th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, For the updated project spec, should question 8 implement two test cases since question 7 has been changed? Currently it still says "which contains Te t m t o s w i h i p e e t t e t r e t s a e o e c i e n q e t o . Thanks.


SVG not supported 12:43pm Mon 14th Oct, Joshua N.

Thanks Arran, that helps thank you.


SVG not supported 12:40pm Mon 14th Oct, Joshua N.

Ok that does make sense thank you. Just another question, wouldn't two partitions make sense here (I'm not sure how much detail I am allowed to disclose)?


SVG not supported 12:36pm Mon 14th Oct, Arran S.

Thanks, you are correct. Rather than make a further correction, I'll have to rely on people using their judgement to work out which previous question is being referred to. cheers Arran ANONYMOUS wrote


SVG not supported 12:32pm Mon 14th Oct, Arran S.

Hi Gihad, Yes, if we're testing some method (or constructor) myMethod that takes in some reference type MyClass , then we can assume that any instances of MyClass are validly constructed if they aren't, then either there's a bug in the const...


SVG not supported 12:18pm Mon 14th Oct, Arran S.

In cases where a class consists of "plain old data" (https en.wikipedia.org wiki Passive data structure) i.e., the class doesn't do any significant abstraction or information hiding then partitioning up a parameter of that class will amoun...


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SVG not supported 9:37pm Sun 13th Oct, Gihad C.

Not OP or Arran but I don't think this kind of partitioning is relevant to testing the LightingCommand constructor specifically. Since the LightingCommand constructor takes Location and LightSource objects as parameters, it is a precondition ...


SVG not supported 9:10pm Sat 12th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, By referring to the updated spec for the project. I still see the following description. In question 8 " implement the three test cases you described in question 6" As per my understanding, it should be something like "Implement the three tes...


SVG not supported 5:55pm Fri 11th Oct, Joshua N.

Hi Arran, I've approached this question differently. For ISP I'm applying it to the fields of the objects and not the objects themselves, e.g. Instead of partitioning Location, I'm partitioning the name of Location. Is this ok? Or is that an incorrect...


SVG not supported 4:37pm Fri 11th Oct, Arran S.

No worries. Hopefully I'll be able to upload the changed version today. cheers Arran


SVG not supported 4:35pm Fri 11th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, Thank you for the timely reply. I have no issues with the proposed modifications. Cheers


SVG not supported 4:25pm Fri 11th Oct, Arran S.

Hi, Thanks for the detailed question. I think your reasoning is valid - it's difficult to come up with many sensible partitions, based on the general principles we've looked at in class. A constructor with a more complex behaviour (e.g. exceptions bein...


SVG not supported 4:07pm Fri 11th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, I share some concerns raised by OP regarding the project specification. The instructions ask us to "apply input space partitioning to the constructor," but they don t clarify what exactly we should test specifically, what we should d...


SVG not supported 1:47pm Fri 11th Oct, Arran S.

Hi Allen. Unfortunately, I can't answer that. It's up to you to apply what we've covered in lectures and labs, make use of the prescribed reading, and demonstrate in the project that you know what you should be testing. If I say exactly what students ...


SVG not supported 10:20am Fri 11th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, Is your statement above still valid? (since this statement is before the project description update). I still confuse about the location , as there is no statement in the project description that ask us to assume. The only statement about l...


SVG not supported 7:12pm Thu 10th Oct, Allen A.

Hi, I had a question about the behaviour you would be expected to test for the constructor 'LightingCommand'. This is more of a general question as well for testing constructors. If you're testing a constructor, should you also test that the created ...


SVG not supported 3:08pm Wed 9th Oct, Arran S.

Hi all, I've uploaded a revised project specification (https cits5501.github.io assessment project), incorporating some of the changes people have suggested on the forum many thanks to everyone who posted corrections. The changes shouldn't have...


SVG not supported 2:55pm Wed 9th Oct, Arran S.

It's up to you to use your best judgement in interpreting the spec. At least one of the interpretations you've mentioned, though, sounds like it is flatly contradicted by the project spec, and so shouldn't ever be a consideration. If you can email me...


SVG not supported 2:43pm Wed 9th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi, In this section of the specification "An augmented command contains a normal command (as defined in version 1.7 of the language, in section 4.1), followed by an optional when condition and an optional until condition (in that order)."...


SVG not supported 12:39pm Wed 9th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, Another place is for the question asking to apply ISP to LightingCommand class, was just thinking to mention the preconditions for the constructor of the LightingCommand class, asked in a previous question.


SVG not supported 3:14pm Tue 8th Oct, Arran S.

Hi all, It was pointed out previously prev that the BNF Playground has very low memory limits it can usually parse grammars of at most around a dozen rules before exhausting memory and displaying an error. The Moodle project testing area doesn't...


SVG not supported 10:28am Tue 8th Oct, Arran S.

Hi all, The project testing area should be visible on Moodle now it's got spaces where you can try out your answers for questions 1 2 (grammar plus grammar coverage tests), and test the different editor options for the long English answers. The g...


SVG not supported 3:51pm Mon 7th Oct, Arran S.

Hi, In question 3, you're asked to comment on your answer from question 2, so it makes sense to refer back to your question 2 answer. Since there's one test case per line, you can just refer to "test case 1", "test case 2", etc. And you will also want...


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SVG not supported 8:02pm Sun 6th Oct, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, Besides the last two questions, could we reference other question's answer assuming that the marker can see them? For example, question 3 asking "why it is that those test cases have production coverage", we can just state like test case X c...


SVG not supported 12:29pm Fri 4th Oct, Arran S.

No worries. I'll likely release it anyhow, as I'm using it for Moodle.


SVG not supported 7:31pm Thu 3rd Oct, Joshua N.

Actually, don't worry about the binary, after using just the augment command it's easy to use BNF playground.


SVG not supported 8:11pm Wed 2nd Oct, Joshua N.

Hi Arran, Thanks for clarifying. It would be great if you could provide the binary to download. Thanks


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SVG not supported 4:54pm Fri 27th Sep, Arran S.

I'll see if I can clarify the spec wording a bit - the intention is that you only need to provide the "augmented" parts. Anything that was already in the original Domolect grammar, you can just refer to in your submitted grammar as if it were alrea...


SVG not supported 4:43pm Fri 27th Sep, Arran S.

Hi Callum, Good questions. In relation to whether optionality requires additional metasymbols, beyond what BNF provides just the vertical bar (" ") is already sufficient to expression optional elements of a language can you see why? In BNF b...


SVG not supported 3:57pm Fri 27th Sep, Joshua N.

Hi Arran, I created a BNF grammar for Q1. Copied it into BNF playground, pressed compile and watched as my browser crashed with a CODE HUNG ERROR . I have tried to incrementally add productions until I get it to crash to find the issue and it just...


SVG not supported 3:30pm Fri 27th Sep, Callum B.

Hi Arran (or anyone else who can clarify) Regarding Q1 of the project Just wondering about the statement that the 'when-condition' and 'until-conditions' being optional, and if that requires further language to specify in BNF. I read a few forums and ...


SVG not supported 3:20pm Fri 27th Sep, Arran S.

ANONYMOUS wrote That should be "question 2", yes. It's a maximum limit - if the question can be adequately answered more briefly, that's fine. Cheers Arran


SVG not supported 3:16pm Fri 27th Sep, ANONYMOUS

Hi Arran, just checking that for question 3 where it states "Explain the reasoning behind your choice of tests in question 3", should it be "choice of tests in question 2"? Also, for question like question 3 where it says "max 1000 words". Is a good a...


SVG not supported 2:50pm Fri 27th Sep, Arran S.

ANONYMOUS wrote Hi, No, you don't. As the project spec says, you can just assume that they are available, and for testing purposes are considered to have just one production. If using the BNF playground - which doesn't permit undefined non-terminals - ...


SVG not supported 12:59pm Fri 27th Sep, ANONYMOUS

In Domolect 1.7, there are no definitions of number and location . So do I need to define the non-terminals number and location in task 1?


SVG not supported 3:24pm Thu 26th Sep, Arran S.

Hi all, My apologies for the later release than expected there were some delays ensuring the project spec seemed clear and internally consistent but the project spec is now available at nbsp; https cits5501.github.io assessment project I'v...

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